‘Record Year’ Says CEO Duncan Bates, Legacy Housing Names Max Africk, Changes in Beneficial Ownership, LEGH Provides Q4 and Year-End 2022 Results, Homes Priced at Retail Range from 33K to 180K


“Legacy builds, sells, and finances manufactured homes and “tiny houses” that are distributed through a network of independent retailers and company-owned stores,” states part of their press release, found below. Citing the Manufactured Housing Institute (MHI), Legacy says they are #5 in the country for the production and shipment of new HUD Code manufactured homes. Part 1 of this report will organize and provide several recent media releases, Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) formal filings, and earnings call information according to Legacy Housing (LEGH). Note that unlike Skyline Champion (SKY), which used Berkshire Hathaway owned BusinessWire for their media release, Texas-based Legacy Housing used Globe Newswire instead. Florida-based Nobility Homes (NOBH) likewise eschewed Berkshire’s (BRK) BusinessWire in their recent update to shareholders and investors. Part 2 of this report will provide additional information with more MHProNews analysis and commentary in brief of this advancing brand.



Part 1 A)

Legacy Housing Corporation Names Max Africk as General Counsel

March 13, 2023

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BEDFORD, Texas, March 13, 2023 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — Legacy Housing Corporation (the “Company,” NASDAQ: LEGH) announced today that Max Africk has joined the Company as General Counsel.

Duncan Bates, Chief Executive Officer, stated: “I am excited for Max to join our team as General Counsel. He is a skilled attorney who brings extensive legal knowledge that will assist us in operating as a public company and growing our business. Max is a key addition to our leadership team, and I look forward to working with him.”

Mr. Africk replaces Thomas Osier, who departed the Company in late 2022.

Max Africk Bio

Mr. Africk (33) most recently served as an attorney at King & Spalding LLP, where his practice focused on complex commercial litigation. Prior to joining King & Spalding, Mr. Africk served as an attorney at Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP and Petrillo Klein & Boxer LLP. Mr. Africk received his undergraduate degree from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and his law degree from the University of Texas School of Law. After graduating from law school, Mr. Africk served as law clerk to the Honorable Brian A. Jackson, United States District Court for the Middle District of Louisiana, and the Honorable W. Eugene Davis, United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.

About Legacy Housing Corporation

Legacy builds, sells, and finances manufactured homes and “tiny houses” that are distributed through a network of independent retailers and company-owned stores. The Company also sells directly to manufactured housing communities. Legacy is the fifth largest producer of manufactured homes in the United States as ranked by the number of homes manufactured based on the information available from the Manufactured Housing Institute. With current operations focused primarily in the southern United States, we offer our customers an array of quality homes ranging in size from approximately 395 to 2,667 square feet consisting of 1 to 5 bedrooms, with 1 to 3 1/2 bathrooms. Our homes range in price, at retail, from approximately $33,000 to $180,000. … ##


Part 1 B)

Legacy Housing Corporation Reports Full Year 2022 Financial Results

March 15, 2023

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BEDFORD, Texas, March 15, 2023 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — Legacy Housing Corporation (the “Company” or “Legacy”, NASDAQ: LEGH) today announced its financial results for the full year end December 31, 2022.

Financial Highlights for the Fiscal Year Ended December 31, 2022

  • Net revenue for the year ended 2022 was $257.0 million, an increase of 30.1% from the year ended 2021.
  • Income from operations for the year ended 2022 was $78.0 million, an increase of 32.4% from the year ended 2021.
  • Net income for the year ended 2022 was $67.8 million, an increase of 35.9% from the year ended 2021.
  • Basic earnings per share for the year ended 2022 was $2.78, an increase of 35.0% from the year ended 2021.
  • Book value for year ended 2022 was $382.1 million, an increase of 23.5% from the year ended 2021.
  • Book value per share for year ended 2022 was $15.69, an increase of 22.7% from the year ended 2021.

Duncan Bates, President and Chief Executive Officer, stated: “2022 was a record year for Legacy Housing. Our Texas plants continue to operate near peak capacity and our loan portfolios are performing well. We made progress at our Georgia plant during the fourth quarter. Production is improving but still below historical levels. Despite a challenging market, our overall backlog remains healthy. I am excited to move past the financial reporting issues and focus on operational improvements and growth. We are seeing more and more opportunities to deploy capital at attractive rates of return and grow our book value. Driving returns for our shareholders is our top priority.”

This shall not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy, nor shall there be any sale of the Company’s securities in any state or jurisdiction in which such offer, solicitation or sale would be unlawful prior to registration or qualification under the securities laws of any such state or jurisdiction.

Conference Call Information

Management will host a conference call to discuss the results at 10:00 AM Central Time on Thursday, March 16, 2023. To access the conference call, please pre-register using this link. Registrants will receive a confirmation with dial-in details. A live webcast of the event can be accessed using this link.

About Legacy Housing Corporation

Legacy builds, sells, and finances manufactured homes and “tiny houses” that are distributed through a network of independent retailers and company-owned stores. The Company also sells directly to manufactured housing communities. Legacy is the fifth largest producer of manufactured homes in the United States as ranked by the number of homes manufactured based on the information available from the Manufactured Housing Institute. With current operations focused primarily in the southern United States, we offer our customers an array of quality homes ranging in size from approximately 395 to 2,667 square feet consisting of 1 to 5 bedrooms, with 1 to 3 1/2 bathrooms. Our homes range in price, at retail, from approximately $33,000 to $180,000.

Forward Looking Statements

This press release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934 and the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. As a result, our actual results or performance may differ materially from anticipated results or performance. Legacy undertakes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements after the date hereof, except as required by law. Investors should not place any reliance on any such forward-looking statements. … ##


Part 1 C)

MHProNews Note: PDF of the following is found at this link here.

SEC Form 4


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Washington, D.C. 20549
OMB Number: 3235-0287
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Filed pursuant to Section 16(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 hours per response: 0.5

or Section 30(h) of the Investment Company Act of 1940

  1. Name and Address of Reporting Person*

Shipley Douglas M

(Last)                   (First)                   (Middle)


  1. Issuer Name and Ticker or Trading Symbol

Legacy Housing Corp [ LEGH ]

  1. Date of Earliest Transaction (Month/Day/Year)


  1. Relationship of Reporting Person(s) to Issuer (Check all applicable)

Director                X     10% Owner

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(City) (State) (Zip)


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1. Title of Security (Instr. 3) 2. Transaction 2A. Deemed 3. 4. Securities Acquired (A) or 5. Amount of 6. Ownership 7. Nature
Date Execution Date, Transaction Disposed Of (D) (Instr. 3, 4 and Securities Form: Direct of Indirect
(Month/Day/Year) if any Code (Instr. 5) Beneficially (D) or Indirect Beneficial
(Month/Day/Year) 8) Owned Following (I) (Instr. 4) Ownership
Reported (Instr. 4)
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(D) (Instr. 3 and 4)
Common Stock, par value $0.001 per share 03/15/2023 S 686(1) D $20 3,060,314 D
(“Common Stock”)
Common Stock 03/16/2023 S 3,647(1) D $21.2 3,056,667 D
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(e.g., puts, calls, warrants, options, convertible securities)
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Security or Exercise (Month/Day/Year) if any Code (Instr. Derivative (Month/Day/Year) Securities Security Securities Form: Beneficial
(Instr. 3) Price of (Month/Day/Year) 8) Securities Underlying (Instr. 5) Beneficially Direct (D) Ownership
Derivative Acquired Derivative Owned or Indirect (Instr. 4)
Security (A) or Security (Instr. Following (I) (Instr. 4)
Disposed 3 and 4) Reported
of (D) Transaction(s)
(Instr. 3, 4 (Instr. 4)
and 5)
Date Expiration of
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Explanation of Responses:
1. The price reported represents the weighted average price of shares sold.
Exhibits List: Exhibit 24 – Power of Attorney. * Submitted by Shane Allred on behalf of Douglas M. Shipley pursuant to the July 20, 2022 Power of Attorney.
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Exhibit 24




Know all by these presents, that the undersigned, as a Section 16 reporting person of Legacy Housing Corporation (the “Company”), hereby constitutes and appoints each of Shane Allred and Thomas Osier his true and lawful attorney-in-fact to:

  1. execute for and on behalf of the undersigned Schedules 13D and 13G, Form ID, and Forms 3, 4 and 5 in accordance widoes th Sections 13 and l6(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the “Exchange Act”) and the rules thereunder;
  2. do and perform any and all acts for and on behalf of the undersigned which may be necessary or desirable to complete the execution of any such Schedules 13D or 13G, Form ID application for EDGAR codes, and Forms 3, 4 or 5, and the timely filing of such Forms with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and any other authority; and
  3. take any other action of any type whatsoever in connection with the foregoing which, in the opinion of such attorney-in-fact, may be of benefit to, in the best interest of, or legally required by, the undersigned, including, without limitation, the execution and filing of a Form 4 with respect to a transaction which may be reported on a Form 5, it being understood that the documents executed by such attorney-in-fact on behalf of the undersigned pursuant to this Power of Attorney shall be in such form and shall contain such terms and conditions as such attorney-in-fact may approve in his discretion.

The undersigned hereby grants to such attorney-in-fact full power and authority to do and perform all and every act and thing whatsoever requisite, necessary and proper to be done in the exercise of any of the rights and powers herein granted, as fully and to’ all intents and purposes as he might or could do in person, with full power of substitution and resubstitution, hereby ratifying and confirming all that such attorney-in-fact, or his substitute or substitutes, shall lawfully do or cause to be done by virtue of this Power of Attorney and the rights and powers herein granted.

The undersigned acknowledges that the foregoing attorney-in-fact, in serving in such capacity at the request of the undersigned, is not assuming any of the undersigned’s responsibilities to comply with Sections 13 and 16 of the Exchange Act.

This Power of Attorney shall remain in full force and effect until the undersigned is no longer required to file any Schedules 13D and 13G and Forms 3, 4 and 5 in accordance with Sections 13 and 16(a) of the Exchange Act and the rules thereunder with respect to the undersigned’s holdings of and transactions in securities issued by the Company, unless earlier revoked by the undersigned in a signed writing delivered to the foregoing attorney-in-fact.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned has caused this Power of Attorney to be executed as of this 20th day of July 2022.

By: /s/ Douglas M. Shipley

Name: Douglas M. Shipley


Part 1 D) 

Earnings Call Transcript on 3.17.2023, per Seeking Alpha and Insider Monkey. Highlighting is added by MHProNews.

Legacy Housing Corporation (NASDAQ:LEGH) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

Insider Monkey Transcripts

Sat, March 18, 2023 at 2:06 AM EDT

In this article:

Legacy Housing Corporation (NASDAQ:LEGH) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript March 16, 2023

Company Participants [Per Seeking Alpha]

Duncan Bates – President and Chief Executive Officer

Max Africk – General Counsel

Conference Call Participants

Min Cho – B. Riley

Mark Smith – Lake Street Capital

Tim Moore – E.F. Hutton Group

Brian Glenn – Olcott Partners


Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Legacy Housing Corporation Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker’s presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please note that today’s conference is being recorded.

I will now hand the conference over to your speaker host, Mr. Duncan Bates, President, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

[per Insider Monkey]

Duncan Bates: Good morning, everyone. This is Duncan Bates, Legacy’s President and CEO. Thanks for joining our call today. Max Africk, Legacy’s new General Counsel will read the safe harbor disclosure before getting started. Max?

Max Africk: Thanks, Duncan. Before we begin, may I remind our listeners that management’s prepared remarks today will contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties, and management may make additional forward-looking statements in response to your questions. Therefore, the company claims the protection of the safe harbor for forward-looking statements that is contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ from management’s current expectations, and therefore, we refer you to a more detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties in the company’s annual report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, any projections as to the company’s future performance represent management’s estimates as of today’s call. Legacy Housing assumes no obligation to update these projections in the future, unless otherwise required by applicable law.

Duncan Bates: Thanks, Max. We’re happy to have you on the team. I’ll run through our prepared remarks on Legacy’s 2022 financial performance and provide additional corporate updates. We will then open the call for Q&A. 2022 was a record year for Legacy Housing. Net revenue increased to $257 million in 2022, representing a 30.1% improvement over 2021. The increase resulted from several price increases implemented from 2021 to 2022, the conversion of certain independent dealer consignment arrangements to financing arrangements, offset by a decrease in shipments from our Eatonton, Georgia facility. As we discussed on the third quarter call, we delayed shipments and slowed production to improve the quality and consistency of homes manufactured at our plant in Eatonton, Georgia.

During the fourth quarter, we rightsized the workforce, brought in a third party to retrain the team in certain manufacturing stations and significantly improved quality. Production is still below historical levels, but we are making progress without sacrificing quality. Interest revenue from the company’s retail and commercial loan portfolios was $28.6 million for 2022, up 5% from 2021. The increase resulted from higher retail loan balances, offset by lower commercial or MHP balances. Both the commercial and retail loan portfolios continue to perform well. Income from operations for 2022 was $78 million, an increase of 32.4% from 2021. This increase was primarily driven by price increases, the conversion of independent dealers from consignment to financing arrangements and an increase in other revenue, offset by lower volume from Georgia, higher material and labor costs and higher SG&A.

We continue to hold pricing and reduce our raw material inventory. We are also looking at ways to reduce SG&A, up this year due to salaries and incentive compensation, warranty costs and professional fees. Net income of $67.8 million for 2022 was a 35.9% increase over 2021. Basic earnings per share grew to $2.78 in 2022, an increase of 35% from 2021. Legacy delivered a 19.6% return on equity over the last 12 months. For this calculation, I’m using the average 2022 shareholders’ equity value. At the end of 2022, Legacy’s book value per basic share outstanding was $15.69, an increase of 22.7% from 2021. We ended the year in a cash-neutral position with $2.8 million in cash and $22.5 million drawn on our credit line. During the fourth quarter, we put $8.4 million of excess cash to work in treasuries, yielding approximately 4.7%.

Our backlog is healthy across all manufacturing facilities. We have a small manufacturing footprint and continue to run near capacity. As the market slows, we anticipate having orders to fill our three plants. I’m really excited for the next 18 to 24 months at Legacy. We’ve moved past the financial reporting issues and the foundation is stable. Looking at the 2022 balance sheet, we have essentially no debt and over $330 million of principal outstanding across our loan portfolios. These loan portfolios generate a tremendous amount of predictable cash flow that we can reinvest at high rates of return to grow our book value. As the economy slows, we’re seeing more and more opportunities to deploy capital. We are constantly evaluating these opportunities and will remain disciplined in our approach.

Overall, we’re focused on long-term capital appreciation and think that over the next 6 to 18 months is a pretty opportunistic time to put money to work. Operator, this concludes our prepared remarks. Please begin the Q&A.


Q&A Session

Operator: Thank you. And our first question coming from the line of Min Cho with B. Riley. Your line is open.

Min Cho: Hi, Duncan. Congratulations on a really strong quarter here and strong year.

Duncan Bates: Hey, good morning. Thank you very much.


Min Cho: Sure. A couple of questions. Regarding your Georgia facility improvement, it sounds like the shipments have definitely improved in the fourth quarter. Can you talk a little bit about what the utilization rate was as you exited the year? And can you remind us what the historical kind of annual revenue is from that facility?


Duncan Bates: Yes, sure. A couple of thoughts. First, as far as where we are with production, that plant historically has produced, say, 5 to 6 homes a day. We’re still below where we’d like to be, but we’re very cautious around ramping up production until we’re 100% positive that we’re not going to have any quality issues going forward. So right now, we’re building 3 to 4 at that plant. So it’s not significantly below the long-term average, but it has been a work in progress to get up to the historical production level. We don’t publish revenue by manufacturing facility, but you could take production volume and just kind of use an average home price there.


Min Cho: Okay. Definitely do that. Also, it looks like the number of home sections that were produced and shipped were either at a record or near record highs for the fourth quarter and for the full year. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about that with respect to kind of labor availability. And given the current labor situation, do you expect that number to increase through 2023?


Duncan Bates: Yes. Labor continues to be a problem for us. And I think a lot of other companies in the U.S. manufacturing space. That said, it’s not as tight as it was. We use just a very simple barometer of – the labor market is when we walk into our Fort Worth plant in the morning or their people who are waiting in the lobby for jobs. And I think through COVID we really – we didn’t have anybody in the lobby, and we’re starting to see people who are ready to work. So labor does continue to be our constraint from a manufacturing standpoint. But I think it is loosening up, and we’d like to continue to push production at all of these plants, but that really is the constraint.


Min Cho: Okay. And then my final question has to do with your mobile home parks. Just any update on the development in Texas? I know you were pretty close to kind of starting construction on the Del Valle units. Any updates there?


Duncan Bates: Yes. The developments continue to move forward. Frankly, they’re slower than we would like. I mean, we’ve just been – we’ve been tied up and bogged down with so much work on the administrative front. That said, we’re getting towards a point where at least for Phase 1, we can start to think about getting homes into that first phase. But we’re still – we’re months out there. And that’s the first one that will have come online, but we’ve got several others behind it. So it’s unfortunately slower than we would like. I think a lot of the other industry peers will talk about some of the just regulatory hoops that you have to jump through to actually get one of these turnkey and it’s significant. So making progress slower. But I think now that we’re through some of the financial reporting issues, we’re really – we’re going to make a push there.


Min Cho: All right. Understandable. Great. Good luck to you in 2023.


Mark Smith: Hi, guys. First question for me. I just wanted to look at the finance business just a little bit. And correct me if I’m wrong, it looks like you might not be keeping up with kind of the rising rate environment. Can you talk about if you guys are using the finance business really as a lever to kind of drive product sales?


Duncan Bates: Sure. Mark, the nice thing about our finance business is it throws off so much cash that we’re not borrowing to land. So if we were – we had a warehouse facility, and we were borrowing and the rate on that went up pretty dramatically, we would be in a much different situation than we are today. So our strategy over the last year or so has been to keep our rates down and to keep our prices up. And certainly, the financing programs at Legacy helped drive sales for the business.

Mark Smith: Okay. Perfect. And then just looking at if production looked really solid from unit sales this quarter. Can you just talk about kind of where the production was versus kind of inventory you had a little bit more at the end of Q3? So just kind of weighing what you were able to move through from an inventory standpoint versus kind of production here during Q4?


Duncan Bates: Yes. I mean we had talked about, I think, on the last call, especially in Georgia, we had an issue where we had a lot of homes, so we’re stuck in the yard and we weren’t able to ship. So during the fourth quarter, we were able to work through a lot of those. And that certainly helped us. But we are constrained from a manufacturing standpoint. That said, I think heading into a slowdown, I’d much rather have three plants that I’m trying to feed than 40. So I think overall, we’re pretty well positioned going forward.


Mark Smith: Okay. And that’s kind of my next question was just how you feel about manufacturing today? Do you have the labor materials or things that you want to continue as we look at Q1 and into ’23 to be able to kind of produce at the levels that you’d like?


Duncan Bates: Yes. I think from – we’d always like an abundance of skilled labor. But I think what we – the teams that we have now are doing a good job. From a material standpoint, the supply chains have really loosened up. And our – one of the challenges that we’ve been working through is you went through 2 years where your purchasing department did everything that they possibly could to get materials. And now that materials are abundantly available and prices are coming down, we’re really working to try to get the biggest discounts that we can. But we’re not having any of the issues that we had during COVID with appliances and other things not being readily available.


Mark Smith: Okay. The last question for me, kind of big picture. Just – you guys gave some great data in your 10-K on kind of the industry and affordable housing, but any other insights you can give on kind of what you’re seeing from a demand perspective especially with cannabis squeeze consumer out here? Or are you continuing to see improved demand for affordable housing?


Duncan Bates: Mark, it’s a really interesting time right now, right? You’ve got stick-built home prices near all-time highs. Rates obviously moved up very quickly and underwriting standards have tightened. So I mean, if you look at some of the stats around average stick-built home price across the country, I mean, it’s a pretty big number. And when you think about our product, right, it’s significantly less expensive. I think the – from a demand standpoint, we have two channels of our business. We either sell through to a retail customer through independent dealers or through our company-owned dealerships or we sell to manufactured housing community owners. There the – I’d say on the dealer side, dealers do have a lot of inventory right now, and the demand is slower from the dealer channel.


I think since like over the last probably 3 to 6 months, traffic at those dealerships has picked up, but the conversions to home sales are not as high as we’d like to see them. On the community side, there’s just a lot of people – there’s a lot of capital that came into the space. And so we continue to see pretty good demand from a lot of our large historical customers that are either developing new communities or doing some infill or expansion. But overall, I think demand is certainly slowing. That said, we feel pretty good with three plants about being able to have the orders to keep these things going at, say, similar production capacity.

Mark Smith: Excellent. Thank you.


Duncan Bates: Sure. Thanks, Mark.


Operator: Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Tim Moore from E.F. Hutton Group. Your line is open.

Tim Moore: Thanks. Congratulations on the very strong sales quarter beat in December and for the year, very impressive margin expansion. I know the team is working and putting in a lot of hours. Duncan, I was just wondering, you briefly mentioned the backlog. What is the current backlog you think in terms of visibility on monthly sales is something like 5 months going out maybe?

Duncan Bates: Tim, we don’t publish a backlog. We have – we do have several months of backlog. I think one of the challenges going forward is having customers actually accept their orders. And so even though you’ve got backlog, we’re pushing people, we’ve ordered homes to get them scheduled and take the homes when they come offline. But again, small manufacturing footprint, even if things slow down, I think we’ll be able to continue to cut deals where we’re selling 20, 30 or 100, 200 homes at a time and keep these facilities close to capacity.


Tim Moore: That’s helpful to hear. How should we think maybe about the gross margin possibility for this year? I saw that the – it looked like the fourth quarter gross margin was 40%. Should we kind of go off of that? Just kind of thinking about modeling going forward and if your prices have held up pretty well. Just trying to get a sense of maybe what you’re thinking for utilization and the margin profile for the year?

Duncan Bates: It’s tough to say. I think there’s a lot of dynamics that are in play right now. We have been able to hold prices firm. And we have, I think, started to benefit from material prices coming down. That said, if demand really does slow down, we’ll have to think hard about pricing. But certainly, we’re trying to buy materials for as cheap as we possibly can, and we’re trying to hold pricing firm. So I think I’ll have a better view kind of by end of next quarter when we talk about that. But I’d say for now, it’s about the same.

Tim Moore: Good. Good. That’s helpful to hear. You mentioned which I think we’re all aware of, but the independent dealer channels had some destocking going on, and we’ve seen the walk-in traffic fall, I guess, the last few months, just in general for the industry. How is the walk-in traffic holding up at your company-owned retail locations? And are you guys doing anything to maybe create more digital leads or digital generation to kind of get more consumers in your stores?

Duncan Bates: Yes. A couple of thoughts on that. I mean Kenny and I spend a lot of time talking about foot traffic and conversions at the retail stores. We have seen an uptick in foot traffic. Really, the issue is on the converting that foot traffic to sales. And I don’t think it’s something that’s necessarily unique to our retail stores as it is across the industry where given the price of our product, people are interested in it. But they – I think a lot of people are hesitant to pull the trigger right now given so much uncertainty in the overall economy. So foot traffic has picked up. We’re working on things to convert more of the traffic to sales. Historically, we have not had a big online presence. And we’ve certainly on the heritage side, ramp that up with an additional hire who’s working on marketing for heritage.


But I think, again, now that we’re through a lot of the financial reporting issues, I’m looking forward to in addition to growth, really focusing on how we can improve the business. And from a marketing standpoint, we think that there’s a pretty good opportunity there. It’s just having the bandwidth to actually work with our team and get it done.

Tim Moore: That’s helpful color. I appreciate that. I mean, another question I had was, I’m just wondering you’re doing a good job in getting the quality assurance back on track with the Georgia plant. Have you and the Board thought about maybe adding ahead of operations to maybe visit all three plants every couple of weeks to just ensure the efficiencies in quality control.


Duncan Bates: Not at this time. We do have – we have really good general managers at all of these plants. And as you know, me, Curt and Kenny are all heavily involved, and this thing moves pretty quickly. We’re not scheduling a lot of meetings. It’s a lot of direct phone calls, and we can make changes quickly. We do operate in a very highly regulated industry. And so there is a code that we strictly build to. And it’s just given some of the labor challenges and turnover, sometimes you have issues there and like we had in Georgia. But I feel good about where the team is now. We’ve had a lot of people step up. And I think if we if we can continue to grow and especially expand the manufacturing footprint, then maybe at that time, a hire like that or an internal person moving into that role makes sense. But I think for the three plants right now, we feel pretty good about the management team that we have in place.


Tim Moore: That makes sense. I remember an enjoyed meeting Marc at your Fort Worth plant in late August. I was very impressed by him. Just maybe switching gears, talking now that you’ve been there 9 months and up to speed on the accounting enhancements and the Georgia facility coming along with these quality [a]surance. Are you now getting any more time to look for acquisition targets?

Duncan Bates: We’re getting there. One of the founders, Kenny Shipley, always says that the best deals come to you. And I think what’s been interesting over the last – really over the last month, maybe month and half is as other manufacturers slow down and financing in certain areas of our business becomes less attainable. I mean we are really seeing a lot more opportunities than we have at years, in years. And the key is when we’re allocating capital, we’re very return focused. We’re focused on the bottom line and growing book value and continuing to reinvest our money at attractive rates of return. And if you look at the returns on the loan portfolio, they’re pretty significant And so as we look at opportunities, there’s a high bar there.


And so we’ve got to make sure that we’re meeting and exceeding those return thresholds to actually deploy capital outside of the loan portfolios. But a long way of saying, we’re seeing more opportunities. We’re spending more time on them. And we think that over the next 12 months is a pretty interesting time to put money to work because we are long-term focused.

Tim Moore: Great. And that’s really helpful color and clarification on the capital allocation strategy. That’s it for my questions. Thanks a lot.

Duncan Bates: Yes. Thanks, Tim.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question coming from the line for Your line is open.


Unidentified Analyst: Hey. Thanks for taking the questions. A couple of things. Can you just give us an update on the strategy for the owned housing manufactured housing parks because in the 10-K, we can see, I think, two of the larger parks, the acreage owned actually decreased. So I don’t know if that’s – we’re developing the pads and we’re selling the pads or we’re developing the pads, putting units on it and then selling them. I believe in the past, there was some discussion about operating these parks and generating a rental stream. And it’s even laid out where we can see the number – the dollar amount of leased homes is actually, I think, declined from some previous levels. So can you just give us an update on what exactly is the strategy with the park development?

Duncan Bates: Yes, happy to. A couple of – there are a few questions in there. I’ll try to take them and if I miss something, just remind me. But first on the acreage change, I don’t know. I’ll have to follow up with you on why the acreage would change. We haven’t purchased any additional land since last quarter, and we also haven’t sold any additional land or any land since last quarter. So I’ll have to follow up with you on why the acreage changed. Overall, we do think that that potentially owning and operating these communities could be a good long term or could provide long-term consistent cash flows. That said, the development of them has taken longer than expected. And I mentioned earlier that the regulatory hurdles that you have to jump through and the time that these regulators take to make decisions is really – it’s mind-boggling.


And for the past couple of years, we’ve had enough orders where two external customers where we haven’t needed to – even if the communities were ready, we haven’t needed to put homes on them because we were at capacity and selling to other customers. But I think ultimately, the communities provide us with a lot of optionality, and there’s a lot of value to unlock there. And so one thing that’s kind of top of our agenda as we move into the middle part of the year is we’ve got the properties. They’re at various stages of development. There’s some that it probably makes sense for us to push through and finish. There’s others, and we’ve been approached by a lot of the larger community developers that may make sense to partner on and potentially be able to sell homes into and still retain some type of cash flow.

And then there’s some that we haven’t made much progress on developing that there may be another buyer that’s more suitable to combine this with additional land and to build bigger communities. So I think overall, we’re still making progress, but the strategy we’re diving into now on exactly what we want to do with each location. But we’re in these things for the right – we bought the land right. We’ve been very frugal with how we’ve allocated capital to these projects and there is value to unlock here. It’s just figuring out what the right path forward is.

Unidentified Analyst: Okay. That’s helpful. I would just clarify. My question on the acreage was, I guess, from 10-K this year, the 10-K last year, Bastrop County, Texas acreage is down 32 acres and Bexar County was down like 31%. So I don’t know if that was – we completed development with place units, someone approached us and we sold it. Is that what happened?


Duncan Bates: No, I need to check on it. I really – I don’t know why it would have changed.


Unidentified Analyst: Okay…


Duncan Bates: The one we really have made the most progress on. We’ve got Phase 1 coming, but I don’t know why it would have changed.


Unidentified Analyst: Okay. And then you mentioned some of the large community developers. You have mentioned that you’re running at pretty high levels of capacity, but you might see some moderation. Given our position in our outlook, is there any sense in approaching some of those larger developers and saying, look, we can allocate a certain percentage of our monthly, weekly, quarterly production to you as a single customer, and then they can have a more consistent supply of units because a lot of things I’ve read makes it sound like there’s lots of demand on the park side, and they’re coming to market with a rental rate in many areas, it’s very attractively priced versus the competition.

Duncan Bates: Sure. We think we build a great park model home. We buy materials and import materials and manufacture our own components that allows us to build these things for a great price and sell them at a great price, even with a little bit of margin there. We have had several conversations with some of our larger customers about taking homes in quantity, under, say, some type of supply agreement where we allocate a certain amount of production a month to them at an agreed upon price. And so yes, all those conversations are happening. We’ve got a great park sales team. And there are certainly customers that – or there are certainly developers that are focused on our core markets that we have not historically sold to, and I’ve been involved in a lot of those meetings, and certainly, we’re trying to advance those.


But if we can build the same home in large runs, I mean, that’s certainly more efficient for us than throwing a bunch of double-wide in [a line] and that slows us down just as they’re more intricate. So yes, that is a top focus for a lot of people of the company.

Unidentified Analyst: Okay. Thank you. And then my last question is just on any update on how we’re looking at the share repurchase authorization from capital allocation perspective, it looks like there’s a lot of opportunities that you’ve touched on. I believe it’s a $10 million authorization. I mean, is that more opportunistic dry powder? And to some extent, maybe we were locked out of actually doing anything in the market as we’ve put – we’re working on getting some of the administrative things addressed that you touched on. Just give us some color there. And would that be something that could be utilized in 2023? Thank you.

Duncan Bates: Sure. Yes, it’s certainly not just optics. I mean that was something that when our last share repurchase program expired, I was pretty adamant about getting back in place. We do trade – we do trade at, I think, a pretty cheap valuation right now. And the way that I personally think about that share repurchase program, every one of these calls, we give our tangible book value per share. And we think our book value is extremely conservative. I mean we – the way that this business was built, it was started with $7 million and all the profits have been reinvested every single year for 18 years and a 10% to 20% return. And so we do have real assets that are unencumbered. And I think if – depending on how the stock market trades through the remainder of the year, as we approach that book value per share number, that may be deploying capital or repurchase – or repurchasing shares, maybe our greatest return opportunity from a capital allocation standpoint if we start trading down near that tangible book value per share number.


Unidentified Analyst: Okay. Thank you for the color. I agree the shares seem to be undervalued. Thank you.

Duncan Bates: Thank you. Appreciate the questions.

Operator: Thank you. We have a follow-up question from Min Cho with B. Riley. Your line is open.


Min Cho: Great. Thank you for the follow up. Real quick, I noticed that the ASP per home section was up in the fourth quarter during the third quarter. I just wanted to know if this is a function of mix or if you could explain that difference? And just any thoughts on ASP going forward? I’m assuming for 2023, kind of flat to down, but any details would be great.

Duncan Bates: Sure. We’ve had seven price – or I’m sorry, I think, 17 price increases through COVID. And – but we have not raised prices since kind of midyear 2022. I think that that’s a function of the price increases being fully implemented. Certainly, we’d like to hold prices. There’s other manufacturers that we’re seeing that have decreased prices. And so look, we’d love to continue at this level, but we’ll see ultimately what happens over the next couple of quarters from a demand standpoint.

Min Cho: Right. And then just also in terms of your automation opportunities, can you talk to how much of your plant is currently automated, if any, and what your opportunities are if this is something that you’re going to focus on going forward?

Duncan Bates: Sure. It’s something that we talk about regularly. And I know if you look overseas, where there’s, I’d say, expanded code – we manufacture to a very strict code. There’s overseas operations in countries where they have a, I’d say, more broad code, and they are highly automated. Our product is very manual right now, and there’s really not much automation. And part of that is we don’t have plants that are dedicated to building the same product over and over and over again, we’ll build – we’ll stack production with orders as they come in. And so I think there probably are some automation opportunities. There’s also, I think, opportunities to get down into regions that have a cheaper labor rates and there – I thought the Solitaire deal with Cavco is pretty interesting, where that’s the only HUD-code manufacturer in Mexico.

That’s certainly something that we had our eye on. But I would see us going in that direction before we build a really state-of-the-art like highly automated manufacturing plant.

Min Cho: Understood. All right, thank you.

Duncan Bates: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Brian Glenn with Olcott Partners. Your line is open.

Brian Glenn: Hi. Welcome, Max. A – Max Africk Thank you.

Brian Glenn: Hey, Duncan. Nice job guys. Nice job, Ron Yes, it’s great to see you guys working hard and getting some results. I had a quick question about in the K, there was a contingent repurchase agreement noted. And it looks like that number has gone up from – it was like $100,000 and $4 million and $8 million. I know it’s noted as immaterial, it’s still immaterial. Is that – it looks like – is that strategic on your side to try to get more floor space? I know it’s related to floor plan financing by a third party? Or is that just the way the market has gone, where you have to put that agreement in place?


Duncan Bates: Yes. So the way that agreement works is, say, we have an independent dealer that we sell homes to that uses, say, 21st for their floor planning. Since we are the manufacturer, we’ll have an agreement with say, 21st to repurchase homes [in] certain circumstances. I need to look at the movement in that as well. I can follow up. But I think a big component of it is – there are two components of it. One, dealers do have a lot of inventory right now, and it’s not moving as quickly as I think they would like. And the second is just home prices are up pretty significantly. And so both of those are driving that number. Now why it went from a few hundred thousand to several million, I can follow up with you on. It may be that we have seen other companies that finance get really aggressive on terms and since we hold everything on our balance sheet, we’re pretty conservative about what we will finance and what we won’t finance.

And so I really – that may be, let’s say, the third reason. So increased home prices, more inventory on dealer lots and then just other finance companies being more conservative, so they’re getting a larger piece of the business on the consignment side.

Brian Glenn: Sure. Okay. That’s helpful. And I would suspect it actually benefits you guys and larger operators more so than smaller ones because it gives you a chance just to use your balance sheet to handle that contingency?

Duncan Bates: That’s right.

Brian Glenn: Yes. And then my second question, I know someone asked this, you jumped into it a little bit. If we – so without talking about specific competitors, but if we grab some of your peers, which are publicly traded, so I know it’s only a slice of the market. And if you just do – I mean, you can do the math anyway you want, but if you jump in to just their manufactured housing try to come up with a cost of goods sold per home, sure, that includes depreciation, maybe for them, it includes depreciation on underutilized or underutilized facilities or facilities not running at full capacity. But regardless, the number is big. It’s a substantial number in terms of what you guys can produce a home for. There’s also an assumption in there about double versus single if they disclose that breakdown or not, but either any way you slice it, it’s a big number.

And so that gap is really just you guys in-sourcing and being more vertically integrated. And I think probably a little bit of this product to just being slightly dialed down, still a high-quality product. But can you elaborate on that?

Duncan Bates: Yes. I’ll try to give you some additional thoughts there. We do pride ourselves on being vertically integrated and trying to buy materials and source materials from overseas and build our own components. I certainly think that’s an advantage. Another advantage is, look, we’ve got two founders that probably have more invested, at least on the manufacturing side of this industry than anybody else in the country, and they’ve both been in it for over 40 years. So a lot of thought and time and effort has gone into how do you build a great floor plan and a nice house that’s going to last efficiently. And so I think we may do a better job as far as like using the right materials in the right places. But I think the biggest component that you hit, and this is something that I want to make clear on this call is I don’t have to feed 30 or 40 plants.

I’ve got three plants and we know that they’re profitable even at lower production levels. And historically, a lot of these plants with the right labor have done more – significantly more in production than what we’re currently doing. We’d love to ramp that up, and I think there’s additional margin there, but it’s really hard in today’s labor environment. And as the market slows and people idle plants and don’t have orders and companies, smaller businesses shut down, though you really – you can’t get small fast enough and I think that some of the larger competitors could really struggle there where you’ve got 40 plants, and there’s more fixed cost than people realize. And in a tight labor environment, you’re moving pretty slow to get rid of your core team because it may be next to impossible to hire all those people back.

So I think that just having a large manufacturing footprint, it could be pretty difficult in a down cycle.

Brian Glenn: That’s it. Thanks. That’s helpful. Great work, and again, welcome, Max, and great work to you and Max and Ron and Kurt and Kenny.

Duncan Bates: Thanks. We really appreciate it.

Operator: Thank you. And I’m showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Duncan Bates for any closing remarks.

Duncan Bates: Perfect. Thank you. Just two final comments. So first, I want to thank everybody who joined today’s call. We really appreciate your interest in Legacy. And feel free to reach out with any follow-up questions. We’ve got some contact information in the press release. And second and most importantly, I want to thank the Legacy team. We’ve got 870-plus team members at our company, and all of them contributed to the results that we put out today in a day early after filing our last 10-K, 5 months late. So I want to thank everybody for their hard work. Everyone contributed here. And that’s all. So operator, this concludes our call.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. ##


Part 2 – Additional Information with More MHProNews Analysis and Commentary in Brief

As Duncan Bates indicated during their earnings call, timely financial reporting has been a snag for Legacy Housing (LEGH), which they now believe to be behind them. Quality issues slowed production at their Georgia facility, which they have been addressing as was noted above. This earnings call may be the first where neither Kenneth “Kenny” Shipley and Curtis “Curt” Hodgson – the firm’s co-founders – directly participated.

There is talk of possibly building a new plant as well as potentially acquiring existing one(s) from competitors.  For some time, Legacy was more focused on organic growth as opposed to growth through M&A activities, so that will be an interesting item to watch too.

Right or wrong, there is a sense that some, not all, of Legacy’s publicly traded competitors may be more into paltering, while Legacy is more straightforward than some of their rivals.  As a possible example of paltering and seemingly less than accurate information being projected out, consider the interview with Kevin Clayton, CEO of Berkshire Hathaway owned Clayton Homes below.

Kevin Clayton Video, Interview w/Transcript ‘Historic’ Claims, Clayton’s Call ‘Double’ Production–Illumines Decades of Manufactured Housing Industry Underperformance; plus MHVille Stocks Update


There are big issue discussions that have not been directly raised by any analysts on any known manufactured housing earnings calls for any publicly traded firm.  To better grasp some of those constraints on manufactured housing that could – if properly addressed – be sources for greater growth, see the reports below.


MHARR Sharpens Attention to Causes, Cures for HUD Code Manufactured Housing Production Decline – Manufactured Housing Institute Flagged, CEO Weiss Wants Congress Probe; plus MHVille Stocks Update

HUD Code Manufactured Home Production Decline Worsens in January 2023 per MHARR – Cavco Wm ‘Bill’ Boor Remark on Manufactured Housing Comes Into Sharper Focus; Sunday MHVille Headlines Recap

Two Years After ‘A Pimple on an Elephant’s Ass’ What’s Changed for Manufactured Housing and America? U.S. Affordable Housing Crisis’ Rearview Mirror Explored – Expert Analysis; plus MHVille Markets Recap


While there are several apparent differences between Nobility Homes (NOBH) and Legacy Housing (LEGH), there are some similarities as well. Among them is their vertical integration. Nobility Homes appears to be more focused on that than Legacy is at this time. But both are reporting being essentially debt-free businesses. For other possible comparisons and contrasts, see the report linked below.


‘Controlling Our Future Through Vertical Integration’ – Unlike Larger Firms, Big Growth at Nobility Homes-1Q 2023 Results–Facts, Analysis, Expert Commentary; plus MHVille Stocks Update


Legacy CEO Bates spoke about long-term thinking from his firm that has co-founders who are proven to be precisely that: focused on longer term planning for sustainable success.



MHProNews has highlighted several items above, as we have with other publicly traded companies. As noted, there are some statements made by other firms that appear to be paltering, head fakes, call their comments whatever you will.  But the problem with that is that so long as someone is closely monitoring what a corporation says, and then later compares prior claims with more recent ones, disconnects can appear. At this time, it appears that Legacy and Nobility each appear to be far more direct and far less opaque than some of their public rivals. For another possible example, see the report linked here and the one below.


‘Undervalued’ Cavco Industries Touts Q Result$ ‘Dire Need for Housing’ ‘January Traffic Up’- Rev Up 16%-Sales, Earnings, Mgmt Call Data–Analysis Beyond CVCO Statements; plus MHVille Stocks Update

Hodgson’s Legacy Housing was an MHI member at the time this comment was made, and per a MHI’s member directory, still is.

Truist, Other Investors Increase Multi-Million Dollar Stakes in Legacy Housing Corporation (LEGH), Corp Update by CEO Duncan Bates, with Added Facts, Analysis


As with all of our tracked stocks, MHProNews holds no position in these firms, so we are editorially freer to render objective insights.  Given their commitment to resolving the issues that Bates has apparently directly addressed, there may be more runway with companies like Legacy and Nobility moving forward than some of the larger competitors. See the related reports to learn more.  There is widely acknowledged affordable housing crisis.  There is no more proven, permeant affordable housing solution in the U.S.A. today than HUD Code manufactured homes. The industry is demonstrably underperforming. Are companies like Legacy and Nobility prepared to shake the status quo up? See Legacy videos and other related insights that follow below. Stay tuned for a planned follow up on Legacy Housing whose team changes are signaling the more long-term future posture that co-founder Curt Hodgson said should be expected that could set them apart from others in MHVille who seem focused on the status quo. ##

Any way you slice it, there is plenty of evidence that the manufactured housing industry is underperforming. Other MHVille trade media often arguably lack certain hands-on experiences that this publication uniquely possesses. Other trade publications demonstrably fail to tackle tricky or thorny issues that MHProNews and our MHLivingNews sites look at and expose with clear eyes. https://www.manufacturedhomepronews.com/true-state-of-the-manufactured-housing-industry-in-march-2023-based-on-facts-not-clever-agenda-driven-fiction-plus-sunday-weekly-mhville-headlines-recap/

PS Note 1: none of the analysts apparently asked about the DOE Energy Rule for Manufactured Housing. For more on that, see the report linked below.

DOE Weakness on MH Energy Rule Case? Attorney Weighs in on DOE Notice Pertaining to DOE Announced Compliance Date for Manufactured Housing Energy Standards; plus Sunday Weekly Headlines Recap


PS Note 2: There are objective reasons to question the so-called big three at MHI. For more on that, see the related reports, linked further below.


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Our son has grown quite a bit since this 12.2019 photo. All on Capitol Hill were welcoming and interested in our manufactured housing industry related concerns. But Congressman Al Green’s office was tremendous in their hospitality. Our son’s hand is on a package that included the Constitution of the United States, bottled water, and other goodies.

By L.A. “Tony” Kovach – for MHProNews.com.

Tony earned a journalism scholarship and earned numerous awards in history and in manufactured housing.

For example, he earned the prestigious Lottinville Award in history from the University of Oklahoma, where he studied history and business management. He’s a managing member and co-founder of LifeStyle Factory Homes, LLC, the parent company to MHProNews, and MHLivingNews.com.

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