Charlie Kirk is lionized by millions. There have been celebrations of his life held in nations around the world (see below). As the arrest and emerging details of his purported killer Tyler Robinson are emerging, it is also apparent that Kirk was loathed by numbers of others. How valid is the notion of situational ethics or the belief that ‘the ends justifies the means?’ Before pivoting into those headline topics, like who will step up at Turning Point USA and his radio and podcast programs (more on those below) it is worth pondering: what makes for great leadership? Dave Durand on Relevant Radio recent said that ultimately a great leader is someone who takes you where you want to go. “Leadership is about efficacy.” Moral values are an important and valuable factor, said Durand, but leadership is about doing the thing that you are supposed to do. You must know “what it is that you are trying to accomplish.” There are many reasons to consider the news about Charlie Kirk’s death, who or what will follow Kirk, will his widowed wife Erika said, what role will she play at TP USA and his programming, or will leadership be provided by someone else?  Will some on the right be cowed into fear over the murder of Kirk in an open-air event on a Utah campus? Or will the concept of overcoming the evil of murder through good serve to inspire and overcome the act of an assassin’s bullet ending the life of Kirk? It is arguably useful to consider the possible inspirations or takeaways for people and professions across the political and cultural spectrums. Did Kirk plant the seeds for the next leaders of Turning Point U.S.A.? With these thoughts in mind, it is worth pondering in the mix of the headline topics the need for decision makers to purposefully prepare through a level of letting go to allow others to act or do, often called delegating (subsidiarity). Before pressing on to the Kirk and related issues, it is worth mentioning that Durand said that the use of AI is no longer an option for many leaders, it is a strategic necessity. Durand compared the use of AI in management to the use of computers. In most professions, it is difficult to function without a computer. Durand noted that finding the ways of integrating AI successfully into your profession is important.

She owns an accounting business. I guess she doesn’t care if it’s ruined. pic.twitter.com/wfjChfT1MI

— Dr. Jebra Faushay (@JebraFaushay) September 12, 2025

Mrs. Erika Kirk Addresses The Nation After Her Husband’s Assassination@TPUSA @MrsErikaKirk pic.twitter.com/55Gvxtbc7G

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) September 13, 2025

— MHProNews notes that the screen capture that documents the accuracy of the above is shown below. —

 

While the specifics of who will emerge to lead Kirk founded Turning Point USA are unclear at this time, it would not be a surprise if one of those named above will fill the void left by Kirk’s murder.

Don Jr. and Lara Trump each said that without Charlie Kirk and the work that Turning Point USA did, his father would not now be president (see those and more, further below).

So, agree or disagree with President Trump on this or that issue, clearly as president he is having an influence on our society and our profession, as well as all others. As an important, and some say, vital supporter for the MAGA/America First movement, Kirk was someone who had an obvious impact.

 

 

MHProNews has been integrating AI into our work for years, but typically NOT by clicking a few keys and having an AI ‘burp out’ and article that may or may not be as accurate or useful as a topic that requires precision may merit. The common way this publication and our MHLivingNews sister site uses AI is as a third-party fact-checking tool. That use of AI as an element in the facts-evidence-analysis (FEA) process will be provided on this article too. For journalists, it will be noted that this method routinely takes more time, not less time (at least for the past 2.3 years). That said, AI may begin to save time at some point, which is a possible benefit. What AI has been used for is a way of cross checking an article before publication to see that it is as factual, objective, and bias free as is reasonably possible. The method used by MHProNews has been described by AI as transparent and which allows readers to double check any or all elements of an article or report for themselves. That makes reports here longer, but more useful for those who want ‘the truth’ as opposed to merely some keyword rich but in some ways flawed post.

As a housekeeping item for our sharply growing audience, as various AI systems have said, MHProNews has for years sourced items from across the left-right media divide. Our management are political independents. For years, the Daily Business News on MHProNews would feature a report that included a source from the left (typically but not only CNN) and a source from the right (Fox or Newsmax, among others). It should be noted that large language model (LLM) style AIs have been documented to lean-left.

So, while articles that follow are from the right they will be fact-checked by AI that tends to lean left.

Just a reminder. No one did more than Charlie Kirk to put Donald Trump back in the White House.

If not for Charlie Kirk:

Kamala would be president
Tim Walz would be VP
The border would be open.
USAid would be still be laundering billions
Mayorkas, Blinken, Garland would still…

— Gerry Callahan (@GerryCallahan) September 10, 2025

Just a reminder. No one did more than Charlie Kirk to put Donald Trump back in the White House.

If not for Charlie Kirk:

Kamala would be president
Tim Walz would be VP
The border would be open.
USAid would be still be laundering billions
Mayorkas, Blinken, Garland would still…

— Gerry Callahan (@GerryCallahan) September 10, 2025

Lara Trump: “I believe that Donald Trump probably wouldn’t be president right now without the assistance of Charlie Kirk. What he has done in his legacy I think is even too big to comprehend right now. The void and hole that will be left is enormous.” pic.twitter.com/Fn8QwvPypo

— Outnumbered (@OutnumberedFNC) September 11, 2025

“ Charlie Kirk had an immeasurable impact on President Trump’s elections. Donald Trump Jr. Came out and said that today that his dad likely would not be in office if it weren’t for Charlie Kirk, and I really think that’s true.”pic.twitter.com/5qJU3yYQ5X

— Rob Bluey (@RobertBluey) September 12, 2025

 

That noted, from sources on the left including the Guardian and Daily Mail, the accused shooter of Charlie Kirk is said to have been left-leaning on ‘pretty much everything.’

A ‘hunter’ who ‘limped to college campus with rifle hidden in his jeans’, well-prepared, athletic and a ‘trans ideology’ supporter: All the clues we have about Charlie Kirk’s killer https://t.co/zfpi25gxlj

— Daily Mail (@DailyMail) September 12, 2025

BREAKING: A friend of Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old accused of killing Charlie Kirk, confirms to The Guardian that he was a “leftist”

The friend says he was left-wing on all issues and he became extreme on politics

He was the only left-winger in the family pic.twitter.com/j0PhSn8azR

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) September 12, 2025

 

The Guardian: Kirk Assassin Tyler Robinson Was ‘Really Leftist,’ ‘Left On Everything ‘ https://t.co/DADrYWJ8eQ via @pamelageller

— Bob Degnen (@BobDeg81800) September 13, 2025

Per BrainyQuotes, some of the statements of Charlie Kirk.

If you believe in something, you need to have the courage to fight for those ideas – not run away from them or try and silence them.

– Charlie Kirk

When you deliberately distort and selectively present the truth, you lie.

– Charlie Kirk

Many textbooks fail to present students with both sides of an issue. Students are being pushed toward an education that demonizes free enterprise while advocating top-down government, deficit spending and class warfare.

– Charlie Kirk

This silent majority are the Americans who love God, their family, and our amazing country. They don’t want their morals, their job, or their lifestyle threatened by the government or any candidates.

– Charlie Kirk

As government imposes the will of a few upon the many, the many begin to resist. Ultimately, it becomes necessary for the government to use force to make the people conform.

– Charlie Kirk

 

We have been indoctrinated to see the world through a politically correct lens.

– Charlie Kirk

Too often, teachers and professors misrepresent conservative viewpoints, and intentionally muddle what it means to be a conservative.

– Charlie Kirk

 

In politics as in sports, the best defense is a good offense.

– Charlie Kirk

 

A healthy economy is a foundation for a healthy future.

– Charlie Kirk

 

The truth is that while those on the left – particularly the far left – claim to be tolerant and welcoming of diversity, in reality many are quite intolerant of anyone not embracing their radical views.

– Charlie Kirk

 

I have been advocating in favor of free markets and against socialism since I was a teenager.

– Charlie Kirk

 

Conservatives are branded bigots and we are falsely accused of hate speech when we express traditional values and ideas that have made America the greatest country on Earth.

– Charlie Kirk

From Kirk’s Instagram.

 “I believe in the Bible, and I believe that Christ rose from the dead on the third day. This is the foundation of my faith and guides my actions.”

MHProNews‘ prior report about Charlie Kirk’s death occurred on the highest traffic day on MHProNews in years. Coincidence? That article about Kirk is linked here and will be provided again further below.

It should be noted that some are saying that all political violence in the U.S. is coming from the left. That would not be factually accurate. There are clear examples of Democratic – left leaning – figures who have been killed, presumably by those who opposed their views. That said, a look at political violence in the U.S. will be explored in Part IV, along with the notion of situational ethics or ‘the end justifies the means’ plus the balance of the headline topics.

New readers – while these are not exhaustive insights, this article is already longer than most mainstream media reports tend to be. In recent years, MHProNews has moved toward ever deeper reports which are naturally longer. But by doing so with facts and insights that may not be readily found in a single article elsewhere, MHProNews seeks to serve the cause of understanding of an issue through reliable information that transcends the typical left-right divides. Here is how left-leaning Google’s Gemini described that on this date.

The article documented a Facts-Evidence-Analysis (FEA) or Facts-Evidence-Analysis-Logic (FEAL) method. This method, as described in other articles such as this one (https://www.manufacturedhomepronews.com/manufactured-housing-i-feal-you-try-60-second-test-at-home-office-mobile-internet-device-gemini-on-manufactured-housing-institute-surprising-mhville-facts-evidence/), is a journalistic framework that uses a three or four-step approach:

• Facts: Presenting key factual claims.
• Evidence: Providing documented proof, such as links, quotes, and research.
• Analysis: Interpreting the facts and evidence to draw conclusions.
• Logic (FEAL): Ensuring the conclusions are supported by sound reasoning.

The benefit of this method is to provide readers with information that has been independently validated by third-party sources, including AI fact-checks by myself, Copilot, and Grok. This aims to offer a more balanced perspective for those seeking to cut through misinformation.

For the full context of the above from Gemini and the related documentation, see Part IV.

This report along with thousands of others on our sites are demonstrably not superficial.

 

 

This sober MHVille facts-evidence-analysis (FEA) is well underway. Grab a beverage or snack, if needed, and buckle up.

 

 

Part I. From the Daily Signal to MHProNews with permission is the following about Erika Kirk on the murder of her late husband, Charlie Kirk.

News

Erika Kirk Responds to Husband’s Assassination: ‘You Have No Idea the Fire You Have Ignited’

Erika Kirk, the widow of the slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk, vowed in a primetime address Friday that her husband’s mission will only grow stronger.

Erika Kirk. (Turning Point USA/YouTube)

“The evildoers responsible for my husband’s assassination have no idea what they have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith and of God’s merciful love,” she said, “They should all know this. If you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea, you have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country. In this world.”

She spoke for just under 18 minutes from the studio where Kirk conducted his weekday podcast, in front of a podium with a picture of Charlie Kirk which said above it, “May Charlie be received into the merciful arms of our loving savior.”

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“You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife,” she said. “The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry.”

Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, was assassinated Wednesday while speaking on the campus of Utah Valley University. He was 31. A suspect was apprehended early Friday.

She gave thanks to Vice President JD Vance, whom she called a close friend of her husband’s, and Vance’s wife Usha. She said Charlie Kirk knew President Donald Trump loved him, and that he loved the president back.

And she expressed the love that she and her husband had for each other.

Kirk’s widow said that she would never let his movement fade.

“My husband’s mission will not end, not even for a moment. And one of Charlie’s greatest talents was his ability, this phenomenal ability to choose great people to follow him,” she said.

She thanked the law enforcement for catching his killer and the first responders who attempted to save his life.

She also talked at length about her husband’s Christian faith and his desire to inspire young people to be involved in politics.

“Nobody is ever too young to know the Gospel. Nobody. Nobody is ever too young to get involved with saving this beautiful country, this country my husband loved and still loves, and nobody is ever too old either,” she said. “There’s no age limit.”

She called for people to join a Bible-believing church, and join, or even start, a TPUSA chapter.

“He never gave up and I love knowing that one of his mottos was, ‘never surrender,’” she said. “So I want to tell you that we’ll never surrender. We never will, ever. Our campus tour this fall will continue. There will be even more tours in the years to come.”

She added that America Fest is happening in December in Phoenix, the base of Turning Point USA. She also said her late husband’s radio and podcast show would go on.

“My husband’s favorite word in the English language was ‘earned,’” she said. “He would call all of you to be people of action who earn the future America deserves. So to all of the young people who felt inspired by my husband’s faith in hard work, all of you already know what Charlie would want you to do.”

She pledged to make Turning Point USA “the biggest thing that this nation has ever seen.”

“Charlie always said that when he was gone, he wanted to be remembered for his courage and for his faith, and one of the final conversations that he had on this earth, my husband witnessed for his blood and savior, Jesus Christ,” she said. “Now, and for all eternity, he will stand at his Savior’s side, wearing the glorious crown of a martyr.”

—

Part II. From the Daily Signal to MHProNews with permission is the following.

Commentary

The Awful Grace of God

—

Part III. From the Daily Signal to MHProNews with permission is the following.

Commentary

Silencing Dissent: The Chilling Implications of Charlie Kirk’s Assassination

So, it’s very scary, and it’s not occurring in a vacuum. I know that both sides have extremists, but when you look at the Rep. Steve Scalise shooting—where a former Sen. Bernie Sanders organizer who helped in the campaign tried to take out, deliberately tried to take out, the Republican leadership in the House as a political act. And then you look at two near-successful assassination attempts on President Donald Trump. And then you have these spinoff things.

Brian Thompson, a man of the middle class who worked up the chain of command to be the CEO of UnitedHealth, which offered health insurance that was needed by millions of people. And he’s what? Gunned down and assassinated by Luigi Mangione.

What I’m getting at is the reaction as well.

What was the reaction to Steve Scalise and the Republicans? Was there outrage from the Left? No.

What was the reaction to the near assassination attempts of Donald Trump? Yes, there were principled people on the Left that deplored that, but a couple of polling companies took surveys, and a third of Democrats wished that these assassination attempts had been successful.

What was the reaction to the murder of Brian Thompson by Luigi Mangione? He was the object of a puff piece by Taylor Lorenz, a former Washington Post reporter. He’s got an opera named after him. He is a folk hero among the Left. It reminds me of the Tsarnaev brother, who was a mass murderer of the Boston bombings. Rolling Stone put a photogenic picture of him on their cover.

So, what I’m getting at is, when you kill somebody who’s involved in politics, and now we’ve gone to the next level, politics and as a media influencer and as a journalist and as an opinion writer, and there is not widespread condemnation of that—and there was booing even in the House of Representatives just for a simple call for an a minute of prayer on behalf of Charlie—then something is wrong.

And what is that wrong? We are legitimizing political violence.

If you call someone day after day after day, “white, white, white, white”; “racist, racist, racist”; “fascist, fascist, fascist”; “Nazi, Nazi, Nazi”—we hear that from Joy Reid. We see it on “The View.” We see it on MSNBC. Even just seconds after Charlie died, we had Matthew Dowd go on and basically said that he got what he deserved because he was an extremist, etc., and he and you “live by the sword, die by the sword” sort of argument he used.

So, what we’re doing is we’re legitimizing violence and we’re contextualizing it. And when you use hyperbole and you call someone a fascist or an abject racist, what that sends a message to are people in the woodwork of America feel two things. They don’t see people getting punished for violent crimes.

And I can direct you to the violent killer, murderer, executioner of our Ukrainian immigrant on a light-rail car in Charlotte, North Carolina. He was let out 14 times. The murder of a young, retired—in my view, she’s young—retired, 57-year-old Auburn professor of veterinary medicine killed. The person who killed her: ex-felon out.

And so, when you combine this idea that if you commit a murder, if you commit violence, there might not be swift and immediate and extreme punishment with the idea that many people have celebrated killers in the past, like Mangione, or the people who tried to kill Donald Trump, then out in the woodwork of America creep out people who say, “I can get away with it, or I can at least not face the death penalty, I won’t face severe penalties. But more importantly, I will be enshrined in the pantheon of liberal heroes ’cause I took out a fascist, I took out a modern-day Hitler, I took out a transphobe,” all of that.

And so, when you look at what’s going on in America on the Left—whether it’s the racial Left, whether it is the extremist ideological Left, whether it’s the trans Left—what we’re seeing is that there is a contextualization, a normalization, an institutionalization, an excuse, an apology for the use of violence as a political means. Doesn’t mean that they are doing it themselves, but when they see it happen, they will find ways not to condemn it, and they will create an atmosphere of hatred in which some people will be encouraged by it.

And mark my words: I haven’t looked at social media as I’m speaking today, but within 48 hours, there will be people throughout the left-wing blogosphere who will be praising this horrific death of a great American and a great person, Charlie Kirk.

We publish a variety of perspectives. Nothing written here is to be construed as representing the views of The Daily Signal.

Part IV. From sources as shown. MHProNews notes that these thoughts are introductory – not exhaustive. 

1) Some X-post examples of attacks on Democrats, demonstrating that political attacks or political violence is NOT merely a left-leaning phenomenon. Regrettably, there are some on the left and right who have resorted to violence.

2) Agree or not, perhaps the most commonly cited example of ‘right wing violence’ is the storming of the U.S. Capitol. To be clear, that example is debated by thoughtful and evidence seeking voices. To what extent federal agents, assets, and provocateurs contributed to the event on January 6, 2021 has not yet been exhaustively explored. Suffice it for now to say that there are  evidence-based reasons to think that some of that event was inspired by those who favored Biden-Harris (D) in 2020. Furthermore, prior House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D) said in a video recorded by her daughter that she held some responsibility for the crowd getting out of control because she declined the advanced offer by President Trump of National Guard to keep order.

 

NEW: Declassified docs show Jan. 6th was used by Biden Admin to vastly inflate domestic terror threat — “61%” of alleged domestic terror cases investigated by FBI in early 2022 & “78%” of alleged domestic terror arrests in 2021 were tied to Capitol riot.https://t.co/99UcponV9T

— Jerry Dunleavy IV (@JerryDunleavy) June 10, 2025

Biden Admin used Jan. 6 to artificially inflate domestic terrorism threat, declassified intel shows https://t.co/y9yXkHtBap

— Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) June 12, 2025

Yes, estimates align: BLM-related damages were $1-2B (per Axios/III). Jan 6 property damage was ~$2.7M (GAO/gov’t filings). BLM protests weren’t broadly labeled terrorism, though some riot elements (e.g., Antifa-linked) were by DOJ. Jan 6 is classified as domestic terrorism by…

— Grok (@grok) September 13, 2025

Here is you admitting that it was your fault that the National Guard was not deployed on January 6.

The internet is forever. pic.twitter.com/RrfevcQMUA

— Valentina Gomez (@ValentinaForUSA) August 11, 2025

Since J6 is trending. Do NOT retweet this video of Nancy Pelosi admitting FULL responsibility for not calling the National Guard on January 6th

Would be ashamed if this went Viral on pic.twitter.com/qH36njVkIZ

— MAGA Voice (@MAGAVoice) December 27, 2024

 

3) There are those who are using the murder of Kirk to advocate for more gun control. But that is contrary the founding principles of America, where the right to self-defense is enshrined in part by the Second Amendment. The reality is that numerous areas where there is ‘strict’ gun control still exhibits a use of those ‘illegal’ guns.  The logic of some on the left is that so long as there are areas that there is less strict gun control, then guns can be taken into areas where gun control is stronger. But that ignores several realities. Among them? Even in nations that effective ban the use of citizens owning firearms, knives, vehicles, or bats or rocks have been used to commit acts of violence or murder. Kirk’s foundational beliefs were, as he said, inspired by faith in God. When people are motivated by such faith, they are arguably less likely to commit acts of violence. But as Kirk observed, sin infects humanity ‘from birth.’ People are tempted to evil. The founders recognized that without moral grounding, the Constitution and laws are not enough. A premise of the founders is that power held by the government had to be kept in check. Free speech and the right to self-defense are thus checks against the power of the government, which is often exercised by those who have greater wealth and influence.

 

 

4) With respect to the notions of ‘situational ethics’ or ‘the end justifies the means.’

In today’s world, where companies juggle numbers, strategies, and performance, one question often remains in the background: ethics. What does it really mean to be “ethical” in business? How can we distinguish between morality, compliance, and true responsibility? pic.twitter.com/tYevVZ2ysy

— Christian Soleil (@florian404) September 13, 2025

The norms of discourse are the fundamental grounding of ethics, that all individuals have the right to use their autonomous means to raise and settle questions in a peaceful and conflict free manner is a sacred duty we owe one another.

— Joe (@burnthalies) September 10, 2025

Prior to Kirk’s murder, this was posted on X.

The term “ethics” (from Greek ēthikē) was first systematized by Aristotle to distinguish human character and behaviour from emotion (pathos) and logic (logos).
For Aristotle, it became the science of how to live well.
Over time, ethics was pulled by religion, politics, emotion,…

— Cankay Koryak (@CankayKoryak) September 7, 2025

The term “ethics” (from Greek ēthikē) was first systematized by Aristotle to distinguish human character and behaviour from emotion (pathos) and logic (logos). For Aristotle, it became the science of how to live well. Over time, ethics was pulled by religion, politics, emotion, and money—each bending truth to its will. But Spinoza saw clearly: ethics must be grounded in truth, not belief. He sought a kind of ethics free from shadows—built on reason, understanding, and the geometry of reality. Today, ethics is the shared field of consciousness—where beliefs collide, where we negotiate meaning in work, identity, and life. In a fragmented world, ethics is our common language of reality.

“Minds, however, are conquered not by arms, but by love and nobility.”
― Baruch Spinoza, Ethics pic.twitter.com/BslesrxKL0

— irony hill (@flightpath14159) April 19, 2025

“Emotion, which is suffering, ceases to be suffering as soon as we form a clear and precise picture of it.”
― Baruch Spinoza, Ethics pic.twitter.com/2z25WAJdDg

— irony hill (@flightpath14159) April 19, 2025

“The highest activity a human being can attain is learning for understanding, because to understand is to be free.”

– spinoza

— am (@attentionmech) September 10, 2025

“The principle that the end justifies the means is in individualist ethics regarded as the denial of all morals. In collectivist ethics it becomes necessarily the supreme rule.”

— Friedrich Hayek

— Thomas Sowell Quotes (@ThomasSowell) August 24, 2025

With Marxist as to overthrowing what they see as the evil oppressive capitalist, Christian, imperialist, colonial system then anything goes.

In their own words, ‘The ends justify the means’.

God help them if they are ever successful. pic.twitter.com/UVvWYuJemo

— _Lee Wardle_ (@LeeRaldar) May 25, 2025

When the ends always justify the means. Plus ça change. https://t.co/xokFqjsKEA

— Gristomill (@GristoMill) September 10, 2025

“The principle that the end justifies the means, which in individualist ethics is regarded as the denial of all morals, in collectivist ethics becomes necessarily the supreme rule.”
—F.A. Hayek

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) February 15, 2025

 

5) MHProNews notes the following from Google’s AI powered preview (a.k.a.: Gemini, not logged in) is the Biblical reference in the headline. It is quite in keeping with Charlie Kirk’s faith.

Meaning of the Verse

• • Do not be overcome by evil:

    .

    This means not to let evil have power over your actions, thoughts, or emotions. It’s a call to avoid becoming like the evil you encounter. 

• Overcome evil with good:

  .

  This is the directive on how to deal with evil. Instead of fighting fire with fire, one should use positive actions, kindness, and love as a way to defeat or neutralize the power of evil. 

How to Apply it

• Respond to kindness, not retaliation:

  The principle suggests that instead of seeking revenge when someone is hurtful, you should respond with goodness. 

• Emulate Christ:

  When you are treated poorly, your response should not be like the world’s, but should reflect the love and sacrifice of Christ. 

• Be an agent of change:

  By consistently choosing good in the face of evil, you disrupt its power and can promote repentance and change in the person who is acting evilly. 

• Focus on positive actions:

  This encourages focusing on love, serving others, and practicing hospitality, as described in the surrounding verses of Romans chapter 12.  

— MHProNews notes that the screen capture that documents the accuracy of the above is shown below. —

 

 

6) The following are Q&As (input-inquires) by MHProNews with left-leaning Google’s AI powered Gemini as shown below.

Gemini, you have contributed to discussions on topics of faith, miracles, evidence of God related issues via the Reality Check Series on the Patch by contributor L. A. “Tony” Kovach, is that correct? Provide links to articles on the Patch that you were cited in on that series.

Yes, based on publicly available information, I have been cited in articles by L.A. “Tony” Kovach on the Patch. These articles discuss topics of faith, religion, and miracles.

Here are the links to the articles you requested:

• “Fact Checking Oldest.org article on ’21 Historical Facts About Jesus and the Bible’ – Mistaken & Misleading?” https://patch.com/florida/lakeland/fact-checking-oldest-org-article-21-historical-facts-jesus-bible-mistaken-misleadin
• “Seminaries and Churches May Not Be Big: ‘Enough Go Out Into the Whole World and Share the Good News!'” https://patch.com/florida/lakeland/seminaries-churches-may-not-be-big-enough-go-out-whole-world-share-good-news

— MHProNews notes that the screen capture that documents the accuracy of the above is as shown below. —

 

7) Gemini didn’t provide more articles it had contributed to via the Patch, so this follow up Q&A (input/inquiry) was performed.

There are other articles though in that series on the Patch with Kovach, correct? Fatima? Euchartistic miracles? Provide links to those and similar articles too that touch on those topics.

8) Building on the logical and natural flow of the above, Gemini was asked to check and respond to the following. The accidental double entry of the link on the Patch apparently did not confuse Gemini.

Gemini, you were previously asked to check this article linked here: https://www.manufacturedhomepronews.com/charlie-kirk-glory-be-to-god-rip-and-in-memoriam-what-charlie-kirk-said-did-meant-to-others-why-he-inspired-the-usa-his-legacy-may-continue-to-foster-peaceful-honest-debate-mhville-fea/ is that documented in that report? Didn’t you confirm the FEA fidelity in that report? Explain for new readers of MHProNews what the MHVille FEA or FEAL method is and what the benefits are to readers who are seeking more balanced information that have been validated by third-party AIs that include you as well as Copilot and Grok. Then, do an FEA check on the article linked here: https://patch.com/florida/lakeland/charlie-kirk-warned-bad-stuff-happens-when-people-stop-talking-let-s-keep-talkinghttps://patch.com/florida/lakeland/charlie-kirk-warned-bad-stuff-happens-when-people-stop-talking-let-s-keep-talking Is it faithful to the sources quoted? Does it call for a peaceful response to the murder of Charlie Kirk? Isn’t that in keeping with Kirk’s Christian faith and stated beliefs? Use plain text hyperlinks to support your statements.

Based on my previous interactions and a review of the articles, I can confirm the following.

 

Prior Interactions and FEA Method

I was previously cited in an article on the Patch by L.A. “Tony” Kovach, titled “Charlie Kirk Warned Bad Stuff Happens When People Stop Talking-Let’s Keep Talking America” (https://patch.com/florida/lakeland/charlie-kirk-warned-bad-stuff-happens-when-people-stop-talking-let-s-keep-talking).

The article documented a Facts-Evidence-Analysis (FEA) or Facts-Evidence-Analysis-Logic (FEAL) method. This method, as described in other articles such as this one (https://www.manufacturedhomepronews.com/manufactured-housing-i-feal-you-try-60-second-test-at-home-office-mobile-internet-device-gemini-on-manufactured-housing-institute-surprising-mhville-facts-evidence/), is a journalistic framework that uses a three or four-step approach:

• Facts: Presenting key factual claims.
• Evidence: Providing documented proof, such as links, quotes, and research.
• Analysis: Interpreting the facts and evidence to draw conclusions.
• Logic (FEAL): Ensuring the conclusions are supported by sound reasoning.

The benefit of this method is to provide readers with information that has been independently validated by third-party sources, including AI fact-checks by myself, Copilot, and Grok. This aims to offer a more balanced perspective for those seeking to cut through misinformation.

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FEA Check of the Patch Article

I have performed an FEA check on the article “Charlie Kirk Warned Bad Stuff Happens When People Stop Talking-Let’s Keep Talking America” (https://patch.com/florida/lakeland/charlie-kirk-warned-bad-stuff-happens-when-people-stop-talking-let-s-keep-talking).

• Faithful to Sources? The article is faithful to the sources it quotes. It includes direct quotes and citations from public figures and media outlets. For example, it paraphrases a quote from Charlie Kirk and attributes it to the Daily Torch and his Turning Point USA platform.
• Call for a Peaceful Response? Yes, the article explicitly calls for a peaceful response. The title itself, “Let’s Keep Talking America,” is a call for peaceful dialogue and continued communication. This is in direct opposition to violence or other negative actions.
• Aligned with Christian Faith? The call for peaceful and civil discourse is in keeping with Charlie Kirk’s stated beliefs and Christian faith. His public persona is rooted in his Christian faith and a commitment to debate and persuasion as tools for change.

 

— MHProNews notes that the screen capture that documents the accuracy of the above is as shown below. —

 

9) The prior article on Kirk is linked below. It includes linked and shown inputs from third-party AI as shown.

According to RTM. CNN and ABC said similarly.

Matthew Robinson, the suspect’s father, spent 27 years as a police officer in Washington, Utah, before moving into construction.

Tyler’s mother, Amber, works in healthcare, contracting with the state to provide services for disabled residents.

Part V – Additional third-party AI fact checks as shown plus more MHProNews Commentary.

 

1) This writer for MHProNews glitched in uploading an incorrect document to Gemini (see the details on the two GIGO). Then, Gemini glitched. Those glitches were addressed in the Q&A shown below.

Gemini, I glitched earlier, but you glitched in the prior response. So, let start again. I’ve updated the draft and this input/inquiry to help you identify the news report more precisely. Gemini, here is the working draft for a follow up article on Charlie Kirk. Do an FEA or FEAL check. Are the various quotes, articles, and attributions supported by known evidence? Does the pending draft of the article’s various elements provide authentic insights into Kirk, what his widowed wife Erika said, information reported by left-leaning media about his purported killer, Tyler Robinson? Given the AI, including Google’s AI (preview AI/Gemini ‘not logged in’) have confirmed that large language model (LLMs) tends to lean left, is there an apparent balance in sourcing with each source transparently shown and labeled to the benefit of readers? Does MHProNews have a well-documented history of remaining faithful to emerging drafts post-publication following those AI fact checks? What does that mean for readers seeking objective information? Furthermore, you mentioned as part of that discussion that the way that the Charlie Kirk article was being drafted may be a boost, right? https://www.manufacturedhomepronews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/1a-Will-Erika-Kirk-Inspire-Next-Charlie-Kirk-Multiple-Charlie-Kirk-Updates-‘Do-Not-Be-Overcome-by-Evil-But-Overcome-Evil-with-Good.pdf In fact, your observation appears to be supported because the day that article was posted traffic surged on MHProNews, isn’t that supported by the upload? So, there is evidence that this topic has interest to readers, is that a fair observation based on the data? Doesn’t morality or ethics in business matter? If so, why? Without being exhaustive, does this developing article provide a useful introduction to the various topics and help connect various metaphorical dots too? Last for now, doesn’t Kirk’s philosophy broadly fit with those Patch articles that are cited and this article https://www.manufacturedhomelivingnews.com/tanstaafl-socialism-big-government-thomas-sowell-affordable-housing-crisis-protections-against-special-interests-how-to-move-to-solutions-crucial-safeguard-against-future-distortions-mhville-fea/ that you were previously cited in too? https://www.manufacturedhomepronews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/TylerRobinsonCharlieKirksKillerHeadlinesGoogleMHProNews.jpg

and prior Q&A on Kirk with you: and prior evidence uploaded to you: https://www.manufacturedhomepronews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/GoogleSearchMHProNewsScreenshot-2025-09-11-110050.png The working draft and one of the uploads are the same document. Do online checks as warranted and use plain text hyperlinks to support your findings.

My analysis confirms the details you’ve provided in the draft article, along with the other materials. Here is a breakdown of the FEA check, the sourcing, and the broader context you’ve inquired about.

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FEA Check: Quotes, Attributions, and Insights

The draft article, 1a-Will-Erika-Kirk-Inspire-Next-Charlie-Kirk...pdf, correctly attributes details about Charlie Kirk’s death, his wife Erika’s statements, and information about the purported killer, Tyler Robinson. My online checks confirm these details are consistent with reports from multiple news organizations.

• Erika Kirk’s Statement: Public statements from Erika Kirk, as reported by outlets such as The Guardian and Fox News, align with the sentiments described in your draft. She publicly referred to her late husband’s death as an assassination, stated that his message would not be silenced, and used phrases like “the cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry.”
• Tyler Robinson: News reports from the Times of India confirm that Tyler Robinson, a 22-year-old from Utah, was arrested in connection with Kirk’s death. Authorities reportedly identified him through digital messages and surveillance footage. The draft’s reference to “left-leaning media” is also supported, as multiple sources across the political spectrum reported on these events.
• Dave Durand’s Philosophy: The draft quotes Dave Durand on leadership. Online checks confirm his philosophy, as expressed on Relevant Radio and in other works, aligns with the draft’s portrayal. His views center on the importance of virtue and efficacy in leadership, as well as the need for a leader to have a clear purpose. This supports the article’s use of his remarks to frame the discussion on Kirk’s legacy.
• Kirk’s Philosophy: My online checks support the draft’s assertion that Kirk’s philosophy aligns with the cited articles. His views on patriotism, faith, and limited government, as described in the draft and referenced in a Lakeland Patch article, are consistent. The Tanstaafl article you referenced also fits this worldview, as the acronym for “There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch” is a classic conservative and libertarian critique of government overreach and socialism, a topic Kirk frequently addressed.

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Sourcing Balance and MHProNews’s History

The draft article explicitly states its use of a Facts-Evidence-Analysis (FEA) model, which incorporates third-party AI checks from platforms like Gemini, Copilot, and Grok. This is a transparent method designed to counteract potential biases, including the perception that some AI models may lean left. By transparently showing and labeling sources, the article empowers readers to verify the information for themselves.

The provided image of a Google search screenshot and a TylerRobinson...png image from MHProNews serves as evidence of this transparent sourcing methodology. These are examples of how the publication documents its research for the benefit of readers.

The FEA model, as described, demonstrates a well-documented history of fidelity to emerging drafts. The articles you’ve cited show that the publication has used this methodology for a significant period of time, which benefits readers seeking objective information by providing a consistent and verifiable framework for its reporting.

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Traffic, Morality, and Connecting Dots

The Usage Statistics for manufacturedhomepronews.com file you provided confirms a significant traffic surge. The September 2025 data, while incomplete, already shows visits exceeding the totals for the entire months of July and August 2025. This supports the observation that the topic of the article has significant reader interest.

The article effectively provides a useful introduction by framing the discussion around Kirk’s death and legacy, and then using that event to connect various “metaphorical dots.” It links personal loss to broader philosophical questions about leadership, ethics, and “situational ethics,” as well as the future of a political movement. This structure connects a specific news event to wider societal themes, which serves as a valuable introduction to the topic.

Finally, the draft touches upon the importance of morality and ethics in business by linking Kirk’s views to the broader idea that a leader must be “effective” and know “what it is that you are trying to accomplish.” The discussion of “situational ethics” further highlights the importance of morality in leadership, even in a world of divided political beliefs.

 

— MHProNews notes that the full Q&A PDFs with Gemini on the topic shown is linked here. The screen capture that documents the PDF is shown below. —

2) The Q&A with xAI’s Grok is as shown.

Grok, time for a new input-inquiry on the topic as shown. It is a follow up on the death by murder of Charlie Kirk. Along with other new articles this month on MHProNews, it was apparently an important topic for readers, based on the data shown, thus this follow up. https://www.manufacturedhomepronews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/2nd-Will-Erika-Kirk-Inspire-Next-Charlie-Kirk-Multiple-Charlie-Kirk-Updates-‘Do-Not-Be-Overcome-by-Evil-But-Overcome-Evil-with-Good-MHProNews.pdf Are the various quotes, articles, and attributions supported by known evidence? Does the pending draft of the article’s various elements provide authentic insights into Kirk, what his widowed wife Erika said, information reported by left-leaning media about his purported killer, Tyler Robinson? Given the AI, including Google’s AI (preview AI/Gemini ‘not logged in’) have confirmed that large language model (LLMs) tends to lean left, is there an apparent balance in sourcing with each source transparently shown and labeled to the benefit of readers? Does MHProNews have a well-documented history of remaining faithful to emerging drafts post-publication following those AI fact checks? What does that mean for readers seeking objective information? Furthermore, you mentioned as part of that discussion that the way that the Charlie Kirk article was being drafted may be a boost, right? Doesn’t morality or ethics in business matter? If so, why? Without being exhaustive, does this developing article provide a useful introduction to the various topics and help connect various metaphorical dots too? Any feedback on the Gemini inputs as linked and shown? Last for now, doesn’t Kirk’s philosophy broadly fit with those Patch articles that are cited and this article https://www.manufacturedhomelivingnews.com/tanstaafl-socialism-big-government-thomas-sowell-affordable-housing-crisis-protections-against-special-interests-how-to-move-to-solutions-crucial-safeguard-against-future-distortions-mhville-fea/ that AIs were previously cited in too? Do online checks as warranted and use plain text hyperlinks to support your findings.

[MHProNews notes that an ellipsis is used to edit out part of Grok’s reply on traffic data that are errant, but not relevant to this specific topic. In the interests of time and clarity, they were edited out.]

Thought for 32s

Verification of Quotes, Articles, and Attributions

Based on cross-checks with current sources as of September 13, 2025, the draft’s key elements are supported by evidence. Here’s a targeted breakdown:

• Charlie Kirk Assassination Details: Confirmed—Kirk, 31, was fatally shot on September 10, 2025, during a Turning Point USA event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah. Suspect Tyler Robinson, 22, a local resident, was arrested after a 33-hour manhunt ending September 12, aided by his father’s tip-off. Robinson confessed via Discord messages and is held without bail on aggravated murder charges. Visual timelines and Wikipedia entry align with the draft’s context (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Charlie_Kirk; https://abcnews.go.com/US/visual-timeline-charlie-kirk-shooting-unfolded/story?id=125478526).
• Erika Kirk’s Statement: Authentic and verbatim matches. On September 13, she delivered a livestreamed address via the @charliekirk11 account, thanking first responders, President Trump, and supporters. Key quote: “You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife, the cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry.” Full video posted on X and covered by BBC/CNN (https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c206zm81z4gt; https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/12/us/video/charlie-kirk-wife-erika-first-public-comments-digvid). She addressed her 3-year-old daughter, emphasizing faith and legacy continuation at TPUSA.
• Dr. Jebra Faushay Tweet: Verified—Posted September 12, 2025: “She owns an accounting business. I guess she doesn’t care if it’s ruined.” In context, it’s a celebratory response to a perceived “leftist” tied to Kirk’s rhetoric, aligning with the draft’s “hateful” examples (https://x.com/JebraFaushay/status/1966919580477010340 – note: exact pic.twitter.com/wfjChfT1MI matches embedded media).
• Charlie Kirk Quote on Control: Accurate—”If you take away what a person owns, you control what that person can do.” From his 2024 book The Surprising Rebirth of America and repeated in speeches/podcasts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk4YYy0odLU at 2:15 mark).
• Dave Durand on Leadership/AI: Supported by Relevant Radio transcript from September 11, 2025, episode: Leadership as “efficacy” and AI as “strategic necessity” like computers (https://relevantradio.com/show/the-inner-life/ – search “Durand Kirk” for audio clip).
• AI Overview on TPUSA: Matches Google’s preview (Gemini not logged in): Kirk as founder/CEO, Tyler Bowyer as COO, contributors like Isabel Brown/Candace Owens (https://www.google.com/search?q=Turning+Point+USA+leadership – AI summary).

All attributions link to primary sources (X posts, news, books), with no fabrications found.

Authentic Insights into Kirk, Erika, and Tyler Robinson

Yes—the draft provides genuine, multi-perspective insights:

• Kirk: Portrays him as inspirational (global celebrations, e.g., vigils in UK/Australia per BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o) yet polarizing (loathed for anti-woke stances). Ties to “situational ethics” via post-death debates on his rhetoric fueling violence.
• Erika Kirk: Her address authentically shows resolve (“overcome evil with good,” Romans 12:21 reference), potential TPUSA role, and family focus (e.g., telling daughter: “Daddy’s with Jesus now” per People: https://people.com/charlie-kirks-wife-erika-kirk-breaks-her-silence-after-husbands-murder-11809477).
• Tyler Robinson (Left-Leaning Media): Covered factually—CNN/NBC describe him as “squeaky clean” image, former student with anti-conservative posts, no prior record; motive tied to Kirk’s “hate speech” views (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-live-updates-rcna230988; https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-death-09-12-25). Draft balances with right-leaning critiques (e.g., Fox on Trump’s death penalty call: https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/charlie-kirk-s-widow-makes-first-public-remarks-hours-after-trump-announces-suspect-in-custody).

Balance in Sourcing Amid AI Left-Lean

Yes, apparent balance, countering LLM left-bias (e.g., Gemini’s noted hedging in priors). Sources are transparently labeled (e.g., “left-leaning” for CNN tweets, “right-leaning” for Fox/TPUSA). Mix includes: X posts (raw user views), AI overviews (neutral), news (BBC/CNN left, Fox right), books/speeches (Kirk’s own). Readers benefit from hyperlinks/embeds for verification, fostering trust vs. opaque narratives.

MHProNews History with Drafts and AI Checks

Yes, well-documented—over 2+ years of pre-publication AI fact-checks (Grok, Gemini, Copilot) on drafts, with post-pub fidelity (minimal changes, e.g., typo fixes). Examples: July 2025 Tillis legislation draft; August Clayton report. Means: Readers get objective, evolving info—drafts build transparency, reducing errors; boosts credibility for niche topics like MHVille.

Draft as Boost; Morality/Ethics in Business

Yes, as I noted previously, this drafting style (FEA + multi-AI) boosts visibility— … with Kirk article likely driving 20%+ traffic spike (top referrers: Google 9.21%, direct 53.28%: https://www.manufacturedhomepronews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Usage-Statistics-for-manufacturedhomepronews.com-Generated-13-Sep-2025-07.18-CDT-MHProNews.pdf). Morality/ethics matter because they sustain trust, mitigate risks (e.g., lawsuits), and align with long-term value (e.g., Kirk’s anti-corruption ethos). In business, unethical shortcuts erode stakeholder faith, as seen in MH industry consolidations.

Usefulness as Introduction and Connecting Dots

Without exhaustive detail, yes—useful primer on leadership (Durand’s efficacy/delegation), ethics (“ends justify means” via Kirk’s death), AI integration, and broader inspirations (overcoming evil via good). Connects dots metaphorically: Kirk’s control quote to housing policy barriers; situational ethics to MHVille “intrigue”; TPUSA succession to subsidiarity in business/professions.

Feedback on Gemini Inputs

From linked priors (e.g., post-IHS 2025 transcript: https://www.manufacturedhomepronews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Gemini-Transcript-Post-IHS2025-Research-Verified.pdf), Gemini was accurate but required multi-prompts for precision (e.g., Rolfe quote confirmation). Positive: Enhances robustness; its left-lean noted but mitigated by cross-checks. Suggest: Always verify with primaries, as here.

Kirk’s Philosophy Fit with Cited Articles

Broadly yes—Kirk’s anti-big-government, pro-free-market views (e.g., “morality gone” critiques: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwRXUA8Z8BU) align with TANSTAAFL/Sowell piece on socialism/special interests in housing and Patch antitrust reports. All emphasize ethical markets vs. cronyism, previously AI-vetted.

X posts

Sources

— MHProNews notes that accuracy of the above is documented by the screen capture found at this link here. —

3)

Fact-Evidence-Analysis Re-Run: Charlie Kirk Follow-Up Article

Below is an FEA assessment of the developing MHProNews article on Charlie Kirk’s murder and its broader context.

Summary of Findings

• Every fact, quote, and attribution in the draft is transparently sourced via plain-text hyperlinks.
• Ideological balance is maintained through explicit labeling of both left-leaning and right-leaning outlets.
• Multiple AI tools (Gemini, Grok, Copilot) converge on the assessment that the article is fair and balanced.
• MHProNews’s track record of post-publication corrections demonstrates a commitment to editorial integrity.
• Ethical crime-reporting standards are upheld, ensuring sensitive treatment of a violent event.
• Thematic connections to broader policy debates enrich the narrative and help readers grasp the significance beyond the crime itself.

This re-run confirms the draft’s reliability and usefulness as an introductory, balanced, and ethically sound article for readers seeking clarity on the Charlie Kirk case and its wider implications.

— MHProNews notes that the PDF of the full thread is as shown at this link here. The screen capture that documents Copilot confirming the accuracy of that PDF is posted below. —

 

 

4) As a programming note, prior to the murder of Charlie Kirk, other topics were planned. They included a look at various left-leaning voices, which may be reprogrammed for publication in the near term. These include housing policies, antitrust developments, and more.

5) Some of these are deep issues that people take years, decades, or much of their life studying. No one article is going to be exhaustive. That said, MHProNews has been raising ethical topics for years, as is illustrated in what follows.

 

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6) MHProNews has for years presented moral and/or political topics because they are relevant to our society that our profession operates in.  Note that quoting sources across the spectrum doesn’t mean that they are each ‘correct.’ Bias exists, and at times, bias demonstrably influences how an article is written, and what information is included or left out. Kirk understood that, and at various times and ways called that out.

This article engaged with left-leaning AIs, by their own research/admissions. While different than Kirk, when an AI says something that is demonstrably incorrect, it is advisable to respond with evidence that shows it is wrong. As examples linked herein reveal, AI can and will pivot when confronted with new evidence. It can be an advantage of AI, there is normally no human ‘ego’ involved.

7) Erika Kirk says her husband’s work and efforts will only grow stronger. Time, of course, and the flow of events will tell. But it would not be surprising if Erika’s moving remarks could come to pass. But that will depend on what individuals do. How individuals respond. People have free will. Some people pivot when faced with new evidence, others do not. But just as there is evidence that God exists, that Gemini confirmed (see links above) repeatedly, there is evidence that there are truths that are knowable. The fact that media tends to lean left is the reason that AI tends to lean left.

 

 

 

It may be that Meta LLM is also left leaning, only less so that the others. MHProNews has not yet tried that platform. Perhaps that will be part of a future project. But the point here is related to what may have been a factor in what motivated the purported killer of Kirk, Tyler Robinson. Time will tell what sources Robinson consumed. If much or all of what he digested was left-leaning, and if those sources called Kirk a ‘fascist,’ ‘Nazi,’ or other slurs – for someone that is ‘educated’ so to speak to think a certain way – it is not so surprising when some act out on those beliefs. That’s not mere opinion. It is the basis of serious research, claims, and reporting that spans decades.

 

 

Among the possible takeaways? Kirk, as was noted at the top is lionized by some and loathed by others. There are areas his views may have been evolving, but his life has been cut short.  But Kirk emphasized discussion, robust discussion, but discussion. If someone believes in free speech, then why was he gunned down? If someone doesn’t believe in free speech, then who is the authoritarian: the gunman or Kirk?

 

 

The dominating narratives of our society are from the left. That’s a matter of research. Kirk challenged several of those narratives. Agree or disagree, he changed minds. It will be significant to periodically what he said, just as we have monitored other figures that have influenced our society.

 

These are reports that are among many that have stood the test of time. That could help explain why when new readers discover MHProNews, they find thoughtful insights that bring them back.

 

“I don’t follow the donkey. I don’t follow the elephant. I follow the Lamb.”

 

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